Fair enough. Gender ain't sexuality, so you can never be sure.
Must be weird, though, suddenly leaving that part of your life behind. [Rowan's cheating a little here. Sam isn't the first straight transperson they've met, and they've been told as much before.]
[He blinks, half-surprised that he doesn't have to fight the point, and leans back, his eyes coming to rest on a seat on the other side of the carriage.]
It was.
[He doesn't have to think about that before responding. After a moment, he follows it up with a snort, and elaborates:] Particularly coming from a place where being a gay Garou was significantly more common than being a male Garou. [Sure, there are male Black Furies, but they are so rare they might as well not exist - even those select few men whom Pegasus would accept often decide to leave for other tribes, because being a metis is enough of a disadvantage in any tribe that they don't want to add a second this-sets-you-apart-in-a-negative-way-and-makes-you-an-outsider on top of it. Or that's what he was told by the Fury-born Child of Gaia that he talked to while attempting to figure out which tribe to pick.
Considering himself gay and expecting to become a Black Fury had both gone out of the window for the same reason, if not at exactly the same time, and thus they go very much hand in hand for him. It might be an absolute stereotype that all Black Furies are Angry Lesbians, but the relative density of people for whom at least some of that rang true meant that considering himself a butch Lesbian had never been a problematic identity for him. Really quite the opposite.
He grins, attempting to further the levity of the statement:] My dating life has never been the same.
Eh, I'm sure you don't have that many issues. [He's pretty attractive, after all - from an objective point of view of course.] You just need to find your niche again.
[There's many things that he could answer to that. Some that come to his tongue faster than others.
In the end, he shrugs and instead states a simple fact.] I haven't dated, or attempted to do so, since I left Greece. [Before that, strictly speaking, but it's the easiest and least painful way of putting it.]
[The question, quite honestly, baffles him a bit. It just seems so obvious to him that he wouldn't have - even if he wasn't a bit stumped by how to pick up girls as a guy, there's the whole 1. no Garou, because duh, 2. kinfolk? we just don't know 3. relationships with non-kin are neigh impossible with his level of rage.]
[Not obviously because he's so sure that he would score if he tried. But because if he hasn't tried since to pursue a relationship, obviously he wouldn't have gotten laid, either? The two do go hand in hand, in his mind. Even more so now that things are less self-explanatory.]
[He shrugs his shoulders again, throws a quick glance at Skyler - still mostly passed out - and decides to use the liquid courage that his own still slightly buzzed state provides to push aside the fact that this is not something that he likes to admit to. At all. And never really has to - usually it's enough to say that he just 'hasn't found the right girl yet' or something along those lines.]
...I don't really enjoy having the kind of conversation that would be necessary for it. So I don't see why I would have it for just one night. [And as much as he appreciates that as a Garou he has the option to challenge for the right use of pronouns and similar things, and rank to pull over Kinfolk, he's dealt with that. It's done. He doesn't want to wake sleeping dogs without very good reason. And just wanting to fuck isn't one. He didn't pick the Fianna for a reason. If he has to face the physicality and gender topic for reasons of sex, he wants to do it for someone who has good chances of becoming a long-term partner and only after that option has become clear.]
That's why I do all of my fucking around in gay bars. [They shrug then.] But I guess that's easier for me, 'cos I ain't straight. People can still be cunts about it stuff not matching to what they expect, but there tend to be less of them.
[They scratch their cheek, thinking.] There's a trans night at the admiral every other Friday. You wanna come?
Good music, cheap drinks, and a relatively good chance of getting laid. There's always some chasers there, but mostly they're good at chucking out anyone causing problems. It's good fun.
...I think you really overestimate how much of an issue getting laid specifically is for me.
[He's considering it though, and it shows in his voice - truthfully to what he says not because of the getting laid portion, though, but rather because of the chance to maybe talk to some people that are... further along in the process than him. Most people in the group that he met Skyler at just seemed to be at a different ...stage of issues? than him. He would still have stayed until the end, if it hadn't turned that there'd been another Garou - Get, and Philodox, even - there. That was more interesting - hadn't turned out to be particularly more enlightening when it came to the thing that he's working on because Skyler just had a host of different things that were more on his mind, but they had at least bounced some things.]
[Not that knowing Skyler's password wouldn't have given him access to his number, too, but the swapping numbers actually did occur about five seconds into having split off from the others.]
Not much longer. [Rowan glances up. They've been tracking their progress instinctively based on time, but they can double check it with the announcer, and once it's scrolled far enough they nod.] Stop after next, so five minutes. And we're not far off the exit. [They glance over at Skyler.] Thank fuck there's a lift though, we're on the top floor.
He's not that heavy, I could probably do it - but I definitely won't say no to a lift. [Particularly since judging by Skyler's general state, he's going to be even heavier now than before. Even being well-rested, top floor sounds like a fairly tall (no pun intended) order. That's like third floor, right? With how long they've gone they must have overshot downtown and be back in a suburb on the other side...] How far is it from the station to your house?
[...the fuck is that house so tall. Sam gives Rowan a short, surprised look, but then just accepts the statement and moves to Skyler's other side.
Once the train door opens, it's rather easy to half-drag half-carry the other get out like this. Sam might still lifting the bigger part of the weight, but with Rowan on the other side that side is stable, and that makes everything a lot easier.]
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Must be weird, though, suddenly leaving that part of your life behind. [Rowan's cheating a little here. Sam isn't the first straight transperson they've met, and they've been told as much before.]
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It was.
[He doesn't have to think about that before responding. After a moment, he follows it up with a snort, and elaborates:] Particularly coming from a place where being a gay Garou was significantly more common than being a male Garou. [Sure, there are male Black Furies, but they are so rare they might as well not exist - even those select few men whom Pegasus would accept often decide to leave for other tribes, because being a metis is enough of a disadvantage in any tribe that they don't want to add a second this-sets-you-apart-in-a-negative-way-and-makes-you-an-outsider on top of it. Or that's what he was told by the Fury-born Child of Gaia that he talked to while attempting to figure out which tribe to pick.
Considering himself gay and expecting to become a Black Fury had both gone out of the window for the same reason, if not at exactly the same time, and thus they go very much hand in hand for him. It might be an absolute stereotype that all Black Furies are Angry Lesbians, but the relative density of people for whom at least some of that rang true meant that considering himself a butch Lesbian had never been a problematic identity for him. Really quite the opposite.
He grins, attempting to further the levity of the statement:] My dating life has never been the same.
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In the end, he shrugs and instead states a simple fact.] I haven't dated, or attempted to do so, since I left Greece. [Before that, strictly speaking, but it's the easiest and least painful way of putting it.]
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But you’ve gotten laid since?
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[The question, quite honestly, baffles him a bit. It just seems so obvious to him that he wouldn't have - even if he wasn't a bit stumped by how to pick up girls as a guy, there's the whole 1. no Garou, because duh, 2. kinfolk? we just don't know 3. relationships with non-kin are neigh impossible with his level of rage.]
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But then again, Rowan's in an extremely lucky position compared to the other two, having had surgery before they changed.]
Have you tried?
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[Not obviously because he's so sure that he would score if he tried. But because if he hasn't tried since to pursue a relationship, obviously he wouldn't have gotten laid, either? The two do go hand in hand, in his mind. Even more so now that things are less self-explanatory.]
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...I don't really enjoy having the kind of conversation that would be necessary for it. So I don't see why I would have it for just one night. [And as much as he appreciates that as a Garou he has the option to challenge for the right use of pronouns and similar things, and rank to pull over Kinfolk, he's dealt with that. It's done. He doesn't want to wake sleeping dogs without very good reason. And just wanting to fuck isn't one. He didn't pick the Fianna for a reason. If he has to face the physicality and gender topic for reasons of sex, he wants to do it for someone who has good chances of becoming a long-term partner and only after that option has become clear.]
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[They scratch their cheek, thinking.] There's a trans night at the admiral every other Friday. You wanna come?
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[He's considering it though, and it shows in his voice - truthfully to what he says not because of the getting laid portion, though, but rather because of the chance to maybe talk to some people that are... further along in the process than him. Most people in the group that he met Skyler at just seemed to be at a different ...stage of issues? than him. He would still have stayed until the end, if it hadn't turned that there'd been another Garou - Get, and Philodox, even - there. That was more interesting - hadn't turned out to be particularly more enlightening when it came to the thing that he's working on because Skyler just had a host of different things that were more on his mind, but they had at least bounced some things.]
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[He falls quiet, trying to decide if he wants to elaborate further and ultimately deciding against it.]
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Well, it's good to just hang out with people too. People who understand, you know? It's pretty relaxed.
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I'll need to see if I can, but I'd like to come, then.
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[Not that knowing Skyler's password wouldn't have given him access to his number, too, but the swapping numbers actually did occur about five seconds into having split off from the others.]
...how much longer will we be on this train?
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And it’s just a couple of streets. It’s like five minutes normally. Between the two of us lugging him around, it shouldn’t be too bad.
[Speaking of which. They stand up, stretching out their shoulders as they prepare to grab Skyler so they’re ready to heft him off the train.]
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Once the train door opens, it's rather easy to half-drag half-carry the other get out like this. Sam might still lifting the bigger part of the weight, but with Rowan on the other side that side is stable, and that makes everything a lot easier.]
Lead the way?